The Podcast

Hour-long conversations to explore what it would take for machines to develop qualities resembling human taste, and what the implications would be for creative individuals and for society.

We talk both to people with deep expertise in AI (researchers, entrepreneurs, investors) and to people in professions where taste is central (artists, designers, writers, critics, chefs, architects, curators).

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Bruno Marnette

Dr. Bruno Marnette

PhD in AI from Oxford. Over two decades he has built AI systems for consequential decisions — curation at Meta, anomaly detection at Palantir, risk models at Two Sigma — and founded three venture-backed startups across coding, education and writing. LinkedIn.

Philipp Zahn

Dr. Philipp Zahn

Economist; co-founder and CEO of 20squares, an R&D firm modelling digitally mediated markets and complex systems. Formerly assistant professor at the University of St. Gallen. His research and work center on automation and autonomous systems. philipp-zahn.com.

Episodes and transcripts

Diederik Kruijssen — What galactic archeology teaches us about intelligence
#16

What galactic archeology teaches us about intelligence

Diederik Kruijssen - Astrophysicist turned AI researcher; Chief Scientist at Allora Labs, previously led ERC-funded research groups at leading German astrophysics institutes.

Iulia Georgescu — Taste is how we spot breakthroughs
#15

Taste is how we spot breakthroughs

Iulia Georgescu - Physicist who spent over a decade editing at the Nature journals and founded Nature Reviews Physics.

Rachid Nougmanov — AI should keep making movies after humanity is gone
#14

AI should keep making movies after humanity is gone

Rachid Nougmanov - Filmmaker behind the Soviet cult classic The Needle (starring Viktor Tsoi) and author of the storytelling book Dramaticon.

Turi Munthe — Reasoning is a team sport
#13

Reasoning is a team sport

Turi Munthe - Author of Why We Think What We Think (Penguin) and founder of the pioneering citizen-journalism agency Demotix.

Austin Kilroy — AI can reveal our blindspots
#12

AI can reveal our blindspots

Austin Kilroy - Economist who has advised the World Bank and governments worldwide; founder of the meeting-intelligence startup Whispers.

Vincent Jacob — Music after the machine
#11

Music after the machine

Vincent Jacob - French musician and photographer; frontman of the LA rock band Yards of Blondes and co-writer of a Johnny Hallyday single.

Patrick Shafto — A mathematician in your pocket
#10

A mathematician in your pocket

Patrick Shafto - Professor of mathematics at Rutgers and a program manager at DARPA.

Oliver Spalt — The university as a future lab
#9

The university as a future lab

Oliver Spalt - Professor of Finance at the University of Mannheim.

Seth Frey — AI should make itself obsolete
#8

AI should make itself obsolete

Seth Frey - Computational social scientist and professor at UC Davis studying how online communities govern themselves.

Héctor Pérez Urbina — Defending our cognitive sovereignty
#7

Defending our cognitive sovereignty

Héctor Pérez Urbina - Founder of Tlanextli Group; spent a decade at Google, with a DPhil in AI from Oxford and a master's in AI ethics from Cambridge.

Arseny Zarechnev — The micro-decisions AI makes for us
#6

The micro-decisions AI makes for us

Arseny Zarechnev - Software engineer and founder; co-founded the crypto exchange Mothership and has built at Atlassian and Enki.

Caroline Ingeborn — How AI can set creatives free
#5

How AI can set creatives free

Caroline Ingeborn - COO of Luma AI and former CEO of Toca Boca, the studio behind some of the world's most popular kids' apps.

Konstantin Adamopoulos — Every human is an artist
#4

Every human is an artist

Konstantin Adamopoulos - Philosopher, art historian, and leadership coach working between the contemporary art world and business.

Andy Tyler — What it means for AI to "get it"
#3

What it means for AI to "get it"

Andy Tyler - OpenAI's official Codex Ambassador for London; previously built products at the BBC.

Joshua Tan — AI sovereignty is not enough
#2

AI sovereignty is not enough

Joshua Tan - Interim CTO of Current AI and executive director of Metagov, building open-source alternatives to the frontier AI labs.

Eleanor Warnock — AI Writing Is Glass
#1

AI Writing Is Glass

Eleanor Warnock - Managing editor at Every; previously a journalist at The Wall Street Journal and the FT-backed Sifted.